From araizen@newmail.net Wed Jul 04 19:12:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: araizen@newmail.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 5 Jul 2001 02:12:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 72618 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2001 02:12:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Jul 2001 02:12:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ho.egroups.com) (10.1.2.219) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Jul 2001 02:12:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: araizen@newmail.net Received: from [10.1.10.94] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 05 Jul 2001 02:12:24 -0000 Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2001 02:12:22 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Question of meaning Message-ID: <9i0ie6+372a@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <01070400420509.23937@neofelis> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Length: 947 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 62.0.182.96 From: "Adam Raizen" la pier cusku di'e > >Erm, yes, in that I'm new on this list (and rather new to lojban as > >well) I'm not 100% certain of how it would be correct to go about > >asking this...but here goes. A friend and I were discussing > >vocatives. co'o, ki'e, etc. He then mentioned that nai could be > >tacked on to negate something. The question then came up as to what > >it would mean when someone said "coinai". Would it be negative in > >emotion? Would it be a vocalized avoidance of greeting? Does anyone > >have any thoughts on this? I would much appreciate hearing what other > >people think. > > coinai I'm not greeting you > co'onai I'm not ready to say bye yet > mi'enai I'm not... > ta'anai Keep talking The book mentions in 15.7 (http://www.lojban.org/files/reference-grammar/chap15.html#s7) that "co'o" is the same as "coinai", but I think that your suggestion is more useful. Now why can't we say "doinai"? mu'o mi'e adam