From edward.cherlin.sy.67@aya.yale.edu Sat Jul 07 17:30:50 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Edward.Cherlin.SY.67@aya.yale.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 8 Jul 2001 00:30:50 -0000 Received: (qmail 34159 invoked from network); 8 Jul 2001 00:30:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 8 Jul 2001 00:30:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pltn13.pbi.net) (64.164.98.8) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Jul 2001 00:30:49 -0000 Received: from mcp.aya.yale.edu ([216.103.90.93]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with ESMTP id <0GG400E96PF96M@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 07 Jul 2001 17:30:49 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 17:46:48 -0700 Subject: Re: [lojban] Times of Day In-reply-to: X-Sender: cherlin@postoffice.pacbell.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010707165639.024ebc18@postoffice.pacbell.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=us-ascii From: Edward Cherlin At 05:19 PM 2001-07-06, Nick NICHOLAS wrote: >.i kantu be le se spuda be lenu la lojbab. cu cpedu loi pinka be le velcli >cu caca'a barda .i ja'ebo mi carmi se pluka le ka le lojbo cecmu cu >simsidju djica > >Pierre has pointed out to me that, with numerals following te'i by >default, there is no real need for cmene for hours of the day. The only >compelling reason I can see is to distinguish by a cmene postfix (lir., >lec.) between AM and PM. So: > >(a) Should cmene for hours be mentioned? Or should we just make Lojban >24-hour and be done with it? Please can we go make the 24-hour clock official? Pretty please? I hate having the hours of the morning (and afternoon) run 12 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11, or worse XII I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX X XI I suppose that the late medieval monks and priests in charge of the church clocks weren't having any truck with those infidel numerals that the mathematicians were promoting--especially not 0. After all, Fibonacci published Liber Abaci in 1202, the same year the Fourth Crusade was launched. Edward Cherlin Generalist "A knot! Oh, do let me help to undo it." Alice in Wonderland