From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Mon Jul 09 09:57:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 16:57:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 86695 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 16:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 16:57:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 16:57:22 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15JeLT-00060a-00 for ; Mon, 09 Jul 2001 09:57:15 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2001 09:57:15 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: cvs access (Re: [lojban] NT translation) Message-ID: <20010709095715.D32090@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i From: Robin Lee Powell --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Mon, Jul 09, 2001 at 05:50:19PM +0100, And Rosta wrote: > Bjoern: > > it is about time we get webcvs working, so that less technology > > minded people are not closed out, which would hurt the whole > > project. while i think it very important to deeply understand > > technology one uses, we will have to accept that many people are > > lacking time, patience or inclination to really get into it. i for > > one have no trouble using cvs, but that is me having experience > > using gnu/linux. > > Indeed. I was hoping to spend a few scattered hours over the summer, > while ensconced in the carsey, etc., doing a little translation, not > getting to grips with new software. > > Which is not to say that this CVS thingo doesn't sound like a good > thing, or that Robin hasn't taken great pains with it. It's just that > a time-pressed dabbler like me can't be doing with it. I did give very precise step-by-step instructions for Windows users. I'm re-attaching them here. Let me know if they're insufficient. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/ --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-path: Envelope-to: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Delivery-date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:28:25 -0700 Received: from [64.211.240.238] (helo=mu.egroups.com) by chain.digitalkingdom.org with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14rSLA-0002WT-00 for ; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:28:24 -0700 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-44114-6822-987978503-rlpowell=digitalkingdom.org@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.4.56] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2001 22:28:23 -0000 X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@onelist.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_1_2); 22 Apr 2001 22:28:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 61726 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2001 22:28:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Apr 2001 22:28:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2001 22:28:20 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 14rSL0-0002WM-00; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:28:14 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Message-ID: <20010422152814.Q734@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@onelist.com References: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: ; from jjllambias@hotmail.com on Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 08:04:25PM +0000 From: Robin Lee Powell MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list lojban@yahoogroups.com; contact lojban-owner@yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list lojban@yahoogroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 15:28:14 -0700 Subject: [lojban] The Translation Site for Normal Users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, Apr 22, 2001 at 08:04:25PM +0000, ******* wrote: > > >For those of you who've never used CVS, go to http://www.cvshome.org/. > > I went there and I'm afraid I'm unable to understand a single word > of it. I'm only a user, I don't have a degree in Computer Science... > I followed the links that seemed to be for Windows, but I couldn't > reach anything that I could make any sense of. Could you just direct > me to which file I should download? Thanks! All right, I'm not going to say whom this was from, as it was a private mail, but here are instructions for accessing the translation files for Normal Windows Users. Note that the vast majority of these instructions are identical for Macs. The home page for MacCVS/WinCVS is: http://www.cvsgui.org/ The actual binaries are at http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=10072&release_id=24467 The latest WinCVS, in particular, is at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cvsgui/WinCvs120.zip And the latest non-beta MacCVS is at http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/cvsgui/MacCVS3111.sit.hqx It's for PowerPC. So, grab that, unzip it to a temp directory, run Setup, follow the prompts, reboot. Run WinCVS (in Start->Gnu->WinCVS). Close the tip window, there'll be a window there that has the title "WinCVS Preferences" (if it's not there it's in the Admin menu, "Preferences". The CVSROOT is :pserver:@digitalkingdom.org:/home/cvs where is your userid that I've given you. Authentication type is "passwd" file on the cvs server You shouldn't need to change anything else, so hit OK. Then go to Admin -> Login. Do _not_ enter a password, just hit OK. In the little window at the bottom should be the line: *****CVS exited normally with code 0***** If it doesn't say that, in particular if it says 'code 1' instead, scroll up to see what the problem is and check your entries in Admin->Preferences. If that still doesn't work, mail me. Note that a firewall will likely stop all this from working. Then go to Create->Check Out Module The module name & path is lojban And you should pick a new local folder to put stuff in. You will then have a folder on the right hand side named 'lojban'. First, select the 'cvs' folder in the left hand section of the window. Right-click, and select 'Reload View'. The go into the folder named 'lojban' (double click) , then translations, then pick which project want to look at/work on. The following assumes you're going to edit a file, otherwise just double click on the file you want to read and if it asks you what program to use to view it, select WordPad. Select the file to edit so that it is highlited, then select Trace->Modify Selection, or the little icon on the toolbar that looks like a pencil (just to the left of the eraser). This step is *VERY* important, otherwise you won't be able to edit the right file! There should be a pencil _without_ a blue line through it now by the file you want to edit. I, for example, need to make a change to the 5th chapter of Alice, so I went into lojban->translations->alice and double-clicked on alice-05.texinfo. If, at this point, you are asked what program to open the file with, select WordPad or NotePad (I reccomend WordPad, partly because it's easy to find: right near the bottom of the list, usually). Edit the file as you wish. Save when done. Select the file so that it is highlited, then select Modify->Commit Selection, or the icon that looks like a piece of paper with a red arrow coming out of it (just to the left of the directory dropdown). Hit OK at the window that's popped up. Some processing occurs, and then the pencil to the left of the file should get a blue line through it again. Congratulations, the changes you just made are available to all other lojbanists! ***IMPORTANT*** If you're editing files, every once in a while, select the 'cvs' folder in the left hand section of the window, then the 'lojban' folder in the right hand section of the window, then select Modify->Update Selection (or the little piece of paper with the green arrow coming into it beside the Commit icon). This will bring all the changes that others have made onto your machine. In particular, do this just before you Commit, or it will refuse to commit (you'll know this has happened if, after you commit, the pencil has no blue line through it). Feel free to mail me if you need more help. -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/ To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --X1bOJ3K7DJ5YkBrT--