From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Mon Jul 09 16:37:41 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 9 Jul 2001 23:37:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 28271 invoked from network); 9 Jul 2001 23:37:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Jul 2001 23:37:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay3-gui.server.ntli.net) (194.168.4.200) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Jul 2001 23:37:39 -0000 Received: from m183-mp1-cvx1b.bir.ntl.com ([62.255.40.183] helo=andrew) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 15JkM2-0006GL-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:22:15 +0100 To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Subject: 'irrational' numbers Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:36:47 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" 1. As I understand it, when numbers from -infinity to +infinity [I can't remember what they're called: real? natural?] can't be expressed as ratios, yet we want to refer to them, we name them, as with e, pi and phi, for example. I'm wondering what Lojban does. On the hand it could refer to the number by means of a cmene or lo+brivla, but can such ordinary sumti be used wherever numbers can? (E.g. in mekso.) 2. What does "LI X" mean, where X is something other than a PA? --And.