From phma@oltronics.net Thu Jul 12 19:37:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 13 Jul 2001 02:37:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 10525 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2001 02:37:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Jul 2001 02:37:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (216.189.29.100) by mta2 with SMTP; 13 Jul 2001 02:37:52 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id A23513C55C; Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:37:15 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] RE:Aspects:"prematurely" Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:34:29 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <112.1922a23.287fb09f@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <112.1922a23.287fb09f@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01071222371100.00910@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat On Thu, 12 Jul 2001, pycyn@aol.com wrote: li'o >But then, it was noted that in these notions (and, indeed, the earlier more >purely aspectual ones), the connection was not quite right: {co'u} marked the >transition, the stopping, not the range after the stopping, which is what >"already" and "no longer" aimed at (on one reading, at least). Whence came >the proposed experimental {xa'o} which was to hold during the time between >when something actually starts and the (later) time it should start, a >"mirror" of {za'o}. "Already" applied in that time, at least. I thought {xa'o} was the time after a process was aborted, but before it should have been completed, so {mi xa'o denpa tu'a do} means I quit waiting before you arrived. phma