From jcowan@reutershealth.com Fri Jul 13 12:57:09 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 13 Jul 2001 19:57:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 27904 invoked from network); 13 Jul 2001 19:56:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 13 Jul 2001 19:56:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 13 Jul 2001 19:56:52 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[192.168.3.11]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA16442; Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B4F5280.2060708@reutershealth.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2001 15:56:48 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2-2 i686; en-US; rv:0.9.1) Gecko/20010607 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jay Kominek Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] (unknown) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan Jay Kominek wrote: >>"le stedu be mi cu kelvo li du'e". iepei? > > I don't see how kelvo can mean any sort of possession. There is no possession here. > It seems to me that "My head is ... degrees kelvin" has got to be there, > and if there is any question about the meaning, the question is about what > fills in the blank. In Lojban, the unit of a measurement is expressed by the selbri: we say "This room kelvins 300" and "John Jones centimeters 195." The x1 is the thing being measured, or the measurement itself, and the x2 is a pure number. > I feel compelled to stick with {du'eda}, though I think {du'ezo'e} might > be another possibility. "Du'e da" would lead to the interpretation "There are numbers such that the temperature of my head in kelvins is too many of them." "Du'e zo'e" would mean "The temperature of my head in kelvins is too many (you-know-what-number)s." OTOH both of these are plausible things to say when you have a raging fever, perhaps! -- There is / one art || John Cowan no more / no less || http://www.reutershealth.com to do / all things || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan with art- / lessness \\ -- Piet Hein