From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Sat Jul 14 08:41:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 14 Jul 2001 15:41:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 47383 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2001 15:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 14 Jul 2001 15:41:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay3-gui.server.ntli.net) (194.168.4.200) by mta1 with SMTP; 14 Jul 2001 15:41:39 -0000 Received: from m738-mp1-cvx2c.bre.ntl.com ([62.253.90.226] helo=andrew) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 15LRJ3-0004uV-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:26:10 +0100 To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Subject: RE: [lojban] 'irrational' numbers Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 16:40:51 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010710003204.00d73600@127.0.0.1> From: "And Rosta" Lojbab: > ni'e [selbri] converts a selbri to a quantifier (inverse of MOI) > mo'e [sumti] converts a sumti to a quantifier (inverse of li) > > There is minimal usage history for either of these, and they exist as much > for completeness as for having specific application. My original thought > with ni'e would be for such vague or metaphorical collective quantifiers as > a "gaggle" of geese or a "brace" of oxen. For those, I'd be tempted to use "no'o", 'the typical number of'. But I rather like zi'o zei ci zei ponse fa ko'a ni'e kalci se sarji te'u zilvoncukta "She has shitloads of books" zi'o zei ci zei ponse fa ko'a mo'e li gei so'i cai poi carmi spaji fa ke'a te'u zilvoncukta "She has fucking zillions of books" -- So these constructions seem pretty utile to me. --And.