From lojbab@lojban.org Sat Jul 14 10:24:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 14 Jul 2001 17:24:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 55462 invoked from network); 14 Jul 2001 17:24:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Jul 2001 17:24:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mailman2.cais.net) (205.252.14.62) by mta2 with SMTP; 14 Jul 2001 17:24:26 -0000 Received: from stmpy-2.cais.net (stmpy-2.cais.net [205.252.14.72]) by mailman2.cais.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f6EGpYM66731 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bob.lojban.org (dynamic236.cl8.cais.net [205.177.20.236]) by stmpy-2.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6EGoIF76633 for ; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:50:18 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010714124904.05416100@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 12:54:26 -0400 To: "Lojban@Yahoogroups. Com" Subject: RE: [lojban] 'irrational' numbers In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010710003204.00d73600@127.0.0.1> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 04:40 PM 07/14/2001 +0100, And Rosta wrote: >Lojbab: > > ni'e [selbri] converts a selbri to a quantifier (inverse of MOI) > > mo'e [sumti] converts a sumti to a quantifier (inverse of li) > > > > There is minimal usage history for either of these, and they exist as much > > for completeness as for having specific application. My original thought > > with ni'e would be for such vague or metaphorical collective > quantifiers as > > a "gaggle" of geese or a "brace" of oxen. > >For those, I'd be tempted to use "no'o", 'the typical number of'. Doesn't work if there are more than one typical number. Oxen come in braces, yokes, and herds, and maybe a few other groups. Having a selbri form can also be useful. no'omei is pretty meaningless. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org