From phma@oltronics.net Sun Jul 15 03:13:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 15 Jul 2001 10:13:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 12239 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2001 10:13:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Jul 2001 10:13:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (216.189.29.100) by mta2 with SMTP; 15 Jul 2001 10:13:30 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 3113A3C575; Sat, 14 Jul 2001 23:51:34 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Sorta about attitudes and assertions and the like Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2001 23:41:46 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <84.18b20fd3.28825118@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <84.18b20fd3.28825118@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0107142351340E.01127@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat On Sat, 14 Jul 2001, pycyn@aol.com wrote: >What hair-plant? did I say something about one? or is this a question about >how to say it (and, if so why?) and do you mean like a plug for baldness >treatment or do you mean a vegetable with hairiness somehow? Ahah! The y is >needed in {cakyrespa} ala tosmabru -- I never get that rule right! (Actually, >I never remember to check that rule at all, it being one of the major >inelegances left over from JCB's great morphological revolution that Lojban >was never able to correct). {cakrespa} is nothing to the mangling you'll hear in southern Lojbangug - they sometimes drop y's that way and also mix up tc and c which I slightly alluded to, so {renytcana} comes out as {rencana}. Then some of them (in those really hick towns) drop even more sounds - {mi denpa tu'a do bu'u le renytcana} comes out as {miDEMPtuadoBULrenCAN} which is quite incomprehensible to the educated Lojban speaker. phma