From Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Sun Jul 15 13:50:38 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 15 Jul 2001 20:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 99360 invoked from network); 15 Jul 2001 20:50:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Jul 2001 20:50:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO b05.egroups.com) (10.1.2.184) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Jul 2001 20:50:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: Ti@fa-kuan.muc.de Received: from [10.1.2.117] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 15 Jul 2001 20:50:37 -0000 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:50:32 -0000 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: Location of Lojbangug Message-ID: <9isvmo+6ijd@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Length: 1578 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 193.149.49.79 From: "A.W.T." --- In lojban@y..., "Craig" wrote: > coi rodo >=20 > I've got another theory about lojbangug. If we look at the morphology, it= =3D=0D > suggests Africa. Bantu languages are the only ones I've ever heard that > begin words with sounds like ml and jb and zd. Quite some people - not knowing of lojban - would tell me that it sounds so= =3D=0D mehow like a Slavik language (with those initial pairs=20 and the distinction between voiced and unvoiced consonats like "z" and "s")= =3D=0D .=20 Anyway, it's most probably kind of an antipode/negative culture with roots = =3D=0D like {cirko} -> {tolcri}, {cliva} -> {tolcliva}, {citno} - > {tolcitno} etc. Maybe a people living in kind of UFO (or intergalactic ivory tower) with te= =3D=0D levision, internet encyclopaedias etc. and no verbal=20=20 communication with each other other than uttering command codes and the lik= =3D=0D e (and awkwardly trying to express simple things like=20 "already", subjunctives like "ha szivedbe z=E1rn=E1l, milyen j=F3 is lenne"= or "I=3D=0D looked down at my cup of coffee"). Lojbangug doesn't=20 seem to be situated on this planet but be drifting somewhere out in space, = =3D=0D intelligently, but without real access and understanding,=20 observing earthly mankind from afar. They have assembled a whole (pretty la= =3D=0D rge) set of psychoanalistic descriptive vocabulary for=20 those creatures they're observing, but without really being able to feel co= =3D=0D mpassion with them. And of course, they never had heard=20 anything about poetry, except a strange yidish word - somehow gotten into = =3D=0D there language - which is {.oi} (jaj).=20 .aulun.