From jay.kominek@colorado.edu Mon Jul 16 16:51:22 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 16 Jul 2001 23:51:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 97640 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2001 23:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 16 Jul 2001 23:51:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ucsub.colorado.edu) (128.138.129.12) by mta3 with SMTP; 16 Jul 2001 23:51:18 -0000 Received: from ucsub.colorado.edu (kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu [128.138.129.12]) by ucsub.colorado.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/student) with ESMTP id f6GNpHd15512 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:51:17 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:51:17 -0600 (MDT) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] registry of experimental cmavo In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Jay Kominek On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, And Rosta wrote: > A. Is there a registry of experimental cmavo? If not, could > we have one? If noone else wants to maintain it, I'd volunteer > to. My web page dictionary will allow people to submit experimental cmavo and gismu, when it is complete. As a note, I've started working on that again, so hopefully it won't be too terribly much longer. :) As a note, the dictionary in its current non-functioning form is at: http://wiw.org/~jkominek/jbovlaste/ (username guest, password guest) If you have any thoughts about data which the dictionary should store/represent/contain, (or any thoughts in general on the way it should work), please do email me privately. > B. Can experimental cmavo belong to experimental selmaho and > hence can there be experimental grammatical structures? The grammar is supposed to be fixed and unchanging for the time being, isn't it? > 1. In BAhE: next word begins nonstandard construction. How does the different from ba'e? If you're referring to an entire nonstandard grammatical construct, then how does the listener know where it ends? > 2. bridi-to-sumti converter Isn't that more or less what le/lo/etc do? If nothing else, doesn't su'u do the job? > 4. takes cmevla as complement and yields da-series KOhA, allowing > bare cmevla to function as da-series KOhA thereafter. > > 5. takes cmevla as complement and yields ko'a-series KOhA, allowing > bare cmevla to function as ko'a-series KOhA thereafter. So basically you want cmevla to act as sumti, everywhere? Whats wrong with the la? > 6. In SE: fill places from x2/x3/x4/x5 onwards with zi'o Speaking of that, I was thinking that another SE question which acts as "fi'a" for all the sumti could be useful. - Jay Kominek