From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Mon Jul 16 19:32:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 17 Jul 2001 02:32:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 98289 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2001 02:32:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2001 02:32:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay3-gui.server.ntli.net) (194.168.4.200) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 02:32:47 -0000 Received: from m10-mp1-cvx1b.bir.ntl.com ([62.255.40.10] helo=andrew) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 15MKQE-0005ac-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 03:17:14 +0100 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Where is Lojbangug? Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 03:31:56 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <0107151251040G.01127@neofelis> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" Pierre: > I've thought of "caxmati" for "chess": x1 is a chess game between x2 (white) > and x3 (black). I like that fuhivla -- it should go in the dictionary -- but given that places are easier to add, by BAIing or lujvoing, rather than to subtract, by zihoing, place structures should be as minimal as possible, and an abstract chess game -- a licit series of moves from start to finish -- would be just "x1 is a chess game". Hence I would urge "caxmati: x1 is an abstract chessgame" and, say, "nunycaxmati: x1 is a chess game between x2 (white) and x3 (black)". Moreover, I would urge this sort of reasoning on all new words. --And.