From jjllambias@hotmail.com Tue Jul 17 14:47:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 17 Jul 2001 21:47:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 9403 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2001 21:47:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 17 Jul 2001 21:47:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 21:47:22 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 14:47:22 -0700 Received: from 200.49.74.2 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:47:21 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.49.74.2] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Looking down Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:47:21 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2001 21:47:22.0040 (UTC) FILETIME=[0F17EB80:01C10F0A] From: "Jorge Llambias" la lojbab cusku di'e >I can't keep straight which sense is which in this discussion, so I don't >know what you are asking for. Can you give an English sentence wherein >both a directional sense and a locative sense actually make sense, so I >know what the issue is? I can't give you an English sentence with fa'a because fa'a is not an English word. I can give you a Lojban sentence and the two possible interpretations: le gerku cu bacru fa'a le tricu Interpretation 1 (directional) Orientation of event of barking: towards the tree. Location of event of barking: unspecified. Interpretation 2 (locational) Orientation of event of barking: unspecified. Location of event of barking: somewhere along the line that goes from ???? towards the tree. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.