From phma@oltronics.net Tue Jul 17 18:34:04 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 18 Jul 2001 01:34:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 80309 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2001 01:32:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 Jul 2001 01:32:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (216.189.29.68) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Jul 2001 01:32:36 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id A00AA3C573; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:28:56 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: Subject: RE: [lojban] Where is Lojbangug? Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 21:19:43 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0107172128540M.02684@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, And Rosta wrote: >Alright -- if you're a jvajvoist then make it "fasnycaxmati" or >"jivnycaxmati" (fasnu/jivna zei caxmati), "abstract chessgame x1 is realized >in a game played by x2 (white) and x3 (black)" I'm not a total jvajvoist, but the situation with chess is different than it was with dates. With dates, the place structure of djedi and masti are already defined, but it's hard to come up with a succinct way to spell out a date with those place structures so I came up with something else. With chess, the place structure of caxmati is not yet defined and we're trying to find the best one. If caxmati means "x1 is an abstract chessgame", then jivnycaxmati can have the place structure "x1 is a chessgame between x2 and x3" since jivna has those places. Let's go with that. Or we can say "mi jivna do lo caxmati" for "I play chess with you". phma