From lojbab@lojban.org Tue Jul 17 21:03:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 18 Jul 2001 04:03:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 42133 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2001 04:03:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Jul 2001 04:03:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-3.cais.net) (205.252.14.73) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Jul 2001 04:03:17 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (210.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.210]) by stmpy-3.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6I43GA61373 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:03:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010718000126.00c705a0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:07:23 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] registry of experimental cmavo In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 08:41 PM 07/17/2001 +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: > > >I can't think of a context where {le ge broda gi brode} would > > >cause ambiguity. If it doesn't, I don't see why it should not > > >be allowed. > > > >The ambiguity is that anything that is a sumti-tail is also a full sentence > >(observative), and we have full sentence forethought connectives. This was a partial brain fart on my part. And's question suggested using bridi-tail connection for sumti tail connection, but it is bridi-tail connection that is ambiguous for the reason I stated. It appears that, limited ONLY to sumti-tails, there might be no ambiguity in forethought connection. Unfortunately I no longer have the capability to check the full grammar, much less a modification thereof, since PCYACC, which did the meat of the Lojban grammar development, overflows on grammar.300. But a somewhat stripped grammar seems to continue to work with GEK sumti_tail_111 GIK sumtitail_111. In any event, with the grammar baselined, it doesn't matter. >It also > >isn't clear when you would use a forethought sumti tail connective wherein > >you couldn't use a sentence connective. > >I don't understand that sentence. Could you give an example? Continuing the brain fart, since I had bridi-tail and sumti-tail mixed in my mind. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org