From lojbab@lojban.org Tue Jul 17 21:26:26 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 18 Jul 2001 04:26:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 87580 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2001 04:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 18 Jul 2001 04:26:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 18 Jul 2001 04:26:25 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (210.dynamic.cais.com [207.226.56.210]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6I4QNY08663 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:26:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010718003019.00b64f00@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:30:31 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Looking down Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 08:50 PM 07/17/2001 +0000, Jorge Llambias wrote: >la lojbab cusku di'e >>I can't keep straight which sense is which in this discussion, so I don't >>know what you are asking for. Can you give an English sentence wherein >>both a directional sense and a locative sense actually make sense, so I >>know what the issue is? > >I can't give you an English sentence with fa'a because fa'a is >not an English word. I can give you a Lojban sentence and the >two possible interpretations: > > le gerku cu bacru fa'a le tricu > >Interpretation 1 (directional) > Orientation of event of barking: towards the tree. > Location of event of barking: unspecified. > >Interpretation 2 (locational) > Orientation of event of barking: unspecified. > Location of event of barking: somewhere along the line that goes > from ???? towards the tree. OK, given this, I understand FAhA to be locational. No idea how that tracks back to earlier in the discussion, since the terminology was driving me crazy (I.m doing all this on too little sleep). lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org