From lojbab@lojban.org Thu Jul 19 23:53:06 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 20 Jul 2001 06:53:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 65680 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2001 06:52:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Jul 2001 06:52:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-1.cais.net) (205.252.14.71) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Jul 2001 06:52:35 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (ppp50.net-A.cais.net [205.252.61.50]) by stmpy-1.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6K6qXY23503 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:52:33 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010720024926.00c45bc0@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 02:56:27 -0400 To: Subject: Re: greeks and love (was RE: [lojban] registry of experimental cmavo - new proposals featuring XOhA an...) In-Reply-To: References: <83.d2c520f.288866f7@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 01:03 PM 07/19/2001 -0400, Craig wrote: >I think having iu not mean mi prami is good, because it makes lojban the >only language that does not need body language or smileys - the best English >gloss for ui is not happiness but :-), The smiley is usually expressed in Lojban as zo'o > which would never do in a formal >paper. But there is more than one kind of smile. A mischevous grin is happy, >but it is not anything like the face you make while eating your favorite >food. Both are ui in lojban. uiro'o is physical happiness, which sounds good for how you feel about eating good food, though there are a couple other attitudes that could be added for good measure -.oinai comes to mind. A mischievious grin could mean any of several things, from zo'o, .i'inai, .i'o and maybe a few others, often combined with zo'o. It usually does not mean the simple emotion expressed by .ui lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org