From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Jul 21 17:04:19 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 22 Jul 2001 00:04:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 8606 invoked from network); 22 Jul 2001 00:04:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Jul 2001 00:04:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.133) by mta3 with SMTP; 22 Jul 2001 00:04:18 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:04:18 -0700 Received: from 200.69.11.192 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 00:04:17 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.69.11.192] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: "tofay" (was: RE: [lojban] registry of experimental cmavo Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 00:04:17 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Jul 2001 00:04:18.0174 (UTC) FILETIME=[D9F179E0:01C11241] From: "Jorge Llambias" la adam cusku di'e >According to the current definition, "ca" and the >rest of PU, ZI, etc. all refer to the speaker's now as the reference >point when they don't tag anything. Maybe it should be otherwise, but >it's not. In "story time mode" the reference point is not usually the speaker, and that is the normal mode of speech, isn't it? mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp