From lojbab@lojban.org Wed Jul 25 08:33:40 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 25 Jul 2001 15:33:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 69189 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2001 15:32:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 25 Jul 2001 15:32:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO stmpy-4.cais.net) (205.252.14.74) by mta2 with SMTP; 25 Jul 2001 15:32:41 -0000 Received: from bob.lojban.org (dynamic109.cl7.cais.net [205.177.20.109]) by stmpy-4.cais.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6PFWe516868; Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:32:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010725112831.00cac600@127.0.0.1> X-Sender: vir1036/pop.cais.com@127.0.0.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 11:30:10 -0400 To: Subject: Re: [lojban] High voodoo: sumti for here-and-now Cc: Nick NICHOLAS In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed From: "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" At 08:56 PM 07/24/2001 -0700, Nick NICHOLAS wrote: >This came up in the lessons, although it won't be incorporated in them. >The lessons say you can say "ma tcika ti" for "what time is it?" Is there >a sumti representing "here-and-now" which can substitute for "ti"? What meaning of "here and now" are you trying for that is not adequately expressed by "ti"? I can't see using "ti" in a situation other than in reference to something "here and now" for the speaker. lojbab -- lojbab lojbab@lojban.org Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org