From phma@oltronics.net Fri Jul 27 12:27:51 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 27 Jul 2001 19:27:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 89044 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2001 19:27:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Jul 2001 19:27:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO neofelis.ixazon.lan) (216.189.29.102) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2001 19:27:46 -0000 Received: by neofelis.ixazon.lan (Postfix, from userid 500) id 8ABB33C669; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:59:29 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: phma@oltronics.net To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: rupnu Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 10:48:57 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.29.2] Content-Type: text/plain References: <9jq020+5r51@eGroups.com> In-Reply-To: <9jq020+5r51@eGroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01072710592902.00944@neofelis> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: phma@ixazon.dynip.com From: Pierre Abbat On Thu, 26 Jul 2001, Adam Raizen wrote: >I think that there's a difference between "rupnu" and things like >"mitre", in addition to the value/price ambiguity. With a meter, >there's no absolute meter, and anything which is a meter long can be >called a meter, whereas with rupnu, there's an objective thing which >is a rupnu, a bill or a coin, and if I have, say, a book which costs >20 rupnu, I don't think I would say that the book is 20 rupnu. I mean, >they probably won't take it to pay for my lunch. (Otherwise, how would >I distinguish rupnu from things whose value/price is in rupnu?) There is a law in America, which has been ignored for several decades, stating that a dollar is a certain amount of silver. Thus the dollar is a unit of measure, like the meter or the second, not a physical object. If there is a lump of silver with that specified weight, it is a dollar, though it is not lawful money of the United States of America until (and unless) the Mint presses it into a coin. phma