From jjllambias@hotmail.com Fri Jul 27 15:36:24 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 27 Jul 2001 22:36:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 13700 invoked from network); 27 Jul 2001 22:36:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 27 Jul 2001 22:36:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.113) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Jul 2001 22:36:23 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 15:36:23 -0700 Received: from 200.41.247.45 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:36:23 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.45] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] Tidying notes on {goi} Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:36:23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Jul 2001 22:36:23.0434 (UTC) FILETIME=[906E86A0:01C116EC] From: "Jorge Llambias" la pycyn cusku di'e >< >In {da goi la alfas} la alfas cannot have a previous referent. >If it does, then it is gobbledygook.> > >Under which set of rules? Why can this not (under the present rules) not >just be the namely rider on {da}, "there is an x, namely Alpha?" That's {no'u}. {goi} might end up meaning that when there is nothing to assign, but strictly it does not. >< >That's what I thought. You will have to correct you demonstration >then, as you leave xy dangling unassigned in the middle of it:> > >Ummm! I thought that was your example; it isn't mine (who else was in this >discussion?) You used it in actual usage, not as an example now but some 800 messages back, in the demonstration that no number is the highest number. That's what I remembered when And asked for a way to use names as bound variables. I found your {da goi xy} back then very elegant and useful, but you can't do a general da'o so as to recycle da, and then keep using xy with its original binding. >wins?> > >As Lojbab says, during the freeeze, the book does. My question was meant to be rhetorical. I cannot believe you and Lojbab can seriously expect us to put logic on hold for five years, I must be missing something. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp