From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Fri Jul 27 19:16:10 2001
Return-Path: <a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com>
X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com
X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com
Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 28 Jul 2001 02:16:10 -0000
Received: (qmail 51247 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2001 02:16:10 -0000
Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 28 Jul 2001 02:16:10 -0000
Received: from unknown (HELO relay3-gui.server.ntli.net) (194.168.4.200) by mta3 with SMTP; 28 Jul 2001 02:16:09 -0000
Received: from m54-mp1-cvx1b.bir.ntl.com ([62.255.40.54] helo=andrew) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 15QJOz-0002mY-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 03:00:26 +0100
To: <lojban@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [lojban] High voodoo: sumti for here-and-now
Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 03:15:11 +0100
Message-ID: <LPBBJKMNINKHACNDIIGMCEMDEHAA.a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0)
Importance: Normal
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.4.30.0107242054190.17514-100000@e4e.oac.uci.edu>
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200
From: "And Rosta" <a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com>

Nick:
> This came up in the lessons, although it won't be incorporated in them.
> The lessons say you can say "ma tcika ti" for "what time is it?" Is there
> a sumti representing "here-and-now" which can substitute for "ti"? "caku"
> isn't it, since it contains a sumti tag, and cannot form a default
> argument of a selbri.

{nau} was suggested, tho I'm not sure how that would work.

I would say {ma tcika dei}. IOW, {dei} is your "here-and-now" sumti.

--And.

