From jjllambias@hotmail.com Sat Jul 28 17:32:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 29 Jul 2001 00:32:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 15588 invoked from network); 29 Jul 2001 00:32:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 29 Jul 2001 00:32:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.13) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 Jul 2001 00:32:53 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 28 Jul 2001 17:32:53 -0700 Received: from 200.41.247.57 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 00:32:53 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.57] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: RE: [lojban] Re: rupnu Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 00:32:53 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 29 Jul 2001 00:32:53.0726 (UTC) FILETIME=[01622FE0:01C117C6] From: "Jorge Llambias" la and cusku di'e >How does one talk about measurement units, lengths, monetary >values, etc. in the abstract? That has, how does one talk >about the length 2 metres, as opposed to about things that >are 2 metres in length, in the way that one can talk not >only about remei but also about li re? There must be a >well-known answer to this, but I don't know it, and I >can only think of {ka ce'u mitre/rupnu li re} = "2 >metres/quid", on the presumption that {li re} = {ka >ce'u re mei}. Sounds right, but what would you say about them? {le ka ce'u mitre li re} can be used for example in: ti ta dunli le ka ce'u mitre li re This equals that in their 2 meter length. ti ta frica le ka ce'u mitre makau This differs from that in their length. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp