From pycyn@aol.com Tue Jul 31 17:59:27 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 1 Aug 2001 00:59:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 43547 invoked from network); 1 Aug 2001 00:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 1 Aug 2001 00:57:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-r10.mx.aol.com) (152.163.225.106) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Aug 2001 00:57:47 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-r10.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31.9.) id r.90.17f96f00 (4588) for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:57:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <90.17f96f00.2898adfd@aol.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:57:33 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] vliju'a To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_90.17f96f00.2898adfd_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10531 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_90.17f96f00.2898adfd_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/31/2001 11:38:29 AM Central Daylight Time, thedward@barsoom.net writes: > Why wouldn't "knowledge" be translated as {le se djuno}? I think of > "knowledge" > as "that which is known". I would translate {leka djuno cu vlipa} into > English > as "knowing is powerful", which is very close to saying the same thing, but > not > quite. > But it is not the things known that are powerful -- they could exist unknown and have no effect at all; it is that they are known that is powerful, I think. Whether that is a property or an event is not clear, but it seems to be one or the other. --part1_90.17f96f00.2898adfd_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 7/31/2001 11:38:29 AM Central Daylight Time,
thedward@barsoom.net writes:



Why wouldn't "knowledge" be translated as {le se djuno}? I think of
"knowledge"
as "that which is known". I would translate {leka djuno cu vlipa} into
English
as "knowing is powerful", which is very close to saying the same thing, but
not
quite.




But it is not the things known that are powerful -- they could exist unknown
and have no effect at all; it is that they are known that is powerful, I
think.  Whether that is a property or an event is not clear, but it seems to
be one or the other. --part1_90.17f96f00.2898adfd_boundary--