From richard@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com Fri Aug 03 14:28:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: richard@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 21:28:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 95881 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 21:28:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 21:28:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scrabble.freeuk.net) (212.126.144.6) by mta2 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 21:28:23 -0000 Received: from du-010-0190.freeuk.com ([212.126.153.190] helo=rrbcurnow.freeuk.com) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 15SmUI-0000re-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Fri, 03 Aug 2001 22:28:07 +0100 Received: from richard by rrbcurnow.freeuk.com with local (Exim 2.02 #2) id 15SmMy-000079-00; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:20:32 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 22:20:32 +0100 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: (C)V'{i|u}V Message-ID: <20010803222032.D407@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <9kd1g5+u5fk@eGroups.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010803124308.00bb95b0@pop.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i-nntp In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010803124308.00bb95b0@pop.cais.com>; from lojbab@lojban.org on Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:53:37PM -0400 From: Richard Curnow On Fri, Aug 03, 2001 at 12:53:37PM -0400, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > At 04:48 PM 8/3/01 +0100, And Rosta wrote: > >that {bue} was considered an unofficial but valid spelling of > >{bu'e}, so this leads me to wonder whether /bue/ (as opposed to > >/bu'e ~ bu,e/ truly is legal. > > bue and bu,e are considered alternate orthographic/phonologic forms of the > same word. I thought there was a discussion some time back when it was concluded that bu,e was treated equivalent to bu'e. In which cases Bob is saying that bue == bu,e == bu'e but then don't we have bai == ba,i == ba'i which is clearly useless, since bai and ba'i are certainly used as distinct words? So what is the true situation regarding commas appearing between pairs of vowels? What have I missed? (The algorithm currently in jbofi'e and vlatai assumes that a comma between vowels is effectively equivalent to an apostrophe. If this is wrong, I'd like to understand the correct handling of commas and fix this before I make a new release, which event was otherwise imminent.) co'o mi'e ritcrd. poi zenba selfi'u -- R.P.Curnow,Weston-super-Mare,UK |lo samskiro'a cu simsa lo'e glefau http://www.rrbcurnow.freeuk.com/ |isa'e le xamgu cu tcetcexau ije richard@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com |le xlali cu xagmau lenu nomei