From sabren@manifestation.com Fri Aug 03 15:15:20 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: sabren@manifestation.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 3 Aug 2001 22:15:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 45857 invoked from network); 3 Aug 2001 22:15:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 3 Aug 2001 22:15:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mercury.sabren.com) (209.61.186.253) by mta1 with SMTP; 3 Aug 2001 22:15:18 -0000 Received: from localhost (sabren@localhost) by mercury.sabren.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA22741; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:25:36 -0500 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 18:25:36 -0500 (CDT) X-Sender: sabren@mercury.sabren.com To: Richard Curnow Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: (C)V'{i|u}V In-Reply-To: <20010803222032.D407@rrbcurnow.freeuk.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Michal Wallace On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Richard Curnow wrote: > bue == bu,e == bu'e > > but then don't we have > > bai == ba,i == ba'i > > which is clearly useless, since bai and ba'i are certainly used as > distinct words? > > So what is the true situation regarding commas appearing between pairs > of vowels? What have I missed? I believe the issue here is that "ue" is not a valid lojban dipthong, whereas "ai" is.. If "ue" isn't a dipthong, is must be two syllables, and therefore the same as bu,e or bu'e.. But "bai" sounds like "bye", not "ba ee", so if you want "ba ee" you need a comma or apostrophe. Cheers, - Michal ---------------------------------------------------------------------- let me host you! http://www.sabren.com me: http://www.sabren.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------