From a.rosta@ntlworld.com Sun Aug 05 04:51:07 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@ntlworld.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 5 Aug 2001 11:51:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 12090 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2001 11:51:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2001 11:51:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mta05-svc.ntlworld.com) (62.253.162.45) by mta1 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2001 11:51:06 -0000 Received: from andrew ([62.255.43.103]) by mta05-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010805115104.PNOI20588.mta05-svc.ntlworld.com@andrew> for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:51:04 +0100 To: Subject: RE: [lojban] lo, ku, and poi Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 12:50:11 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <9ki941+jkvo@eGroups.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "And Rosta" Adam: > The book ch. 8.6 (p. 178-179), makes a distinction between a relative > clause before and after the "ku" which terminates the sumti, > especially when the relative clause is introduced by "noi". Does this > distinction still hold up when the relative clause is introduced > by "poi"? You are asking specifically about lo + poi, I take it? This matters, because positioning relative to KU definitely matters for loi + poi, le + poi, lo + noi. I think the le + poi case probably carries over to lo + poi: re lo vo pendo be mi poi citno (ku) "Two of my four young friends" re lo vo pendo be mi ku poi citno "Two of the young ones among my four friends" re lo vo pendo noi citno (ku) "two of my four friends, who are all four of them young" re lo vo pendo ku noi citno = two of my four friends are young > For example (from the lessons), does > > lo jgita poi zo'e bevri vi le janco > > claim that all jgita are carried on the shoulder, or does it take at > least one thing from among the set of all jgita that are carried on > the shoulder? The latter. --And.