From nicholas@uci.edu Sun Aug 05 07:20:35 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: nicholas@uci.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_2_0); 5 Aug 2001 14:20:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 16665 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2001 14:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 5 Aug 2001 14:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO e4e.oac.uci.edu) (128.200.222.10) by mta2 with SMTP; 5 Aug 2001 14:20:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (nicholas@localhost) by e4e.oac.uci.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23113; Sun, 5 Aug 2001 03:57:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: e4e.oac.uci.edu: nicholas owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 03:57:44 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: To: Cc: Nick NICHOLAS Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: soi vo'a and embedded bridi Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Nick NICHOLAS --- In lojban@y..., "Bob LeChevalier (lojbab)" wrote: > At 06:13 AM 8/4/01 -0700, Nick NICHOLAS wrote: > > > 2. Can one say "I saw Bob hit Dave and vice versa" with "soi"? > >Yes, but no longer with vo'a: mi viska lenu la bob. darxi la deiv. soi la > >bob. (or: soi le nei, or: soi ra [and pray], or: soi ri xi re) > soi ri, I think, since soi is attached to la deiv. (I'm willing to be > proven wrong on this if the book says otherwise, but failing that, I would > treat free modifiers attached to a sumti as if they were a kind of relative > clauses or phrase (and indeed they are, since the soi X could be replaced > by a noi bridi) and use ke'a to refer to the sumti they are attached to. > (Free mods can attach to other things of course.)) Well, its going into the lessons as a note, so I guess that makes it now as official as it's ever been... (No, the book does not say otherwise. Grumble.) -- == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == == Nick Nicholas, Breathing {le'o ko na rivbi fi'inai palci je tolvri danlu} nicholas@uci.edu -- Miguel Cervantes tr. Jorge LLambias