From jjllambias@hotmail.com Wed Aug 08 17:15:48 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jjllambias@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 9 Aug 2001 00:15:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 61614 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 00:15:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 9 Aug 2001 00:15:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.241.60) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 00:15:48 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 8 Aug 2001 17:15:48 -0700 Received: from 200.41.247.46 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 00:15:48 GMT X-Originating-IP: [200.41.247.46] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] lu'e (was: Re: ka + makau (was: ce'u (was: vliju'a Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 00:15:48 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Aug 2001 00:15:48.0319 (UTC) FILETIME=[70BCBEF0:01C12068] From: "Jorge Llambias" la xod cusku di'e >If John is the goer, then surely > > mi djuno lu'e le klama > I know the title of the goer > I know who goes In English, "I know the title of the goer" is a short way of saying "I know what the title of the goer is". In Lojban, {mi djuno le tcita be le klama} is NOT a short way of saying {mi djuno le du'u makau tcita le klama}. mu'o mi'e xorxes _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp