From jay.kominek@colorado.edu Thu Aug 09 12:13:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 9 Aug 2001 19:13:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 85632 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 19:12:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Aug 2001 19:12:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ucsub.colorado.edu) (128.138.129.12) by mta1 with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 19:12:00 -0000 Received: from ucsub.colorado.edu (kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu [128.138.129.12]) by ucsub.colorado.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/student) with ESMTP id f79JC0f07917 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:12:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 13:12:00 -0600 (MDT) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] Format for Lojban definitions of Lojban brivla In-Reply-To: <01080610474607.01174@neofelis> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From: Jay Kominek On Mon, 6 Aug 2001, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I propose that when defining a brivla in Lojban, ko'a, ko'e, ... be used for > the terbri, and da, de, di be used for variables internal to the definition. > If the first pro-sumti is omitted, it is assumed to be ko'a. For example: > > mudri: marji lo stani be lo tricu be ko'e > panzi: da tsiju ko'e ko'a That mostly makes sense. Depending on the number of definitions which require more than da de di, it might be better to just use daxiPA or fo'V series for all definitions instead of switching about. (Thats a minor detail, though). I do have a problem with leaving out initial "ko'a", though. That could likely get confusing quickly, and dictionaries shouldn't really leave anything out. p.s.- Anyone producing such definitions, please either place them somewhere in the wiki, or send them to me. I'm preparing a list of what few Lojban definitions I've found for eventual inclusion in jbovlaste. (I've also converted the Spanish gismu list to UTF8 and formatted it properly for inclusion. I hope to have an incomplete PDF Lojban<->Spanish dictionary available this evening. Probably also a pure Lojban dictionary with the handful of words I have definitions for.) - Jay Kominek