From jay.kominek@colorado.edu Fri Aug 10 15:34:57 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 10 Aug 2001 22:34:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 81165 invoked from network); 10 Aug 2001 22:34:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 10 Aug 2001 22:34:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ucsub.colorado.edu) (128.138.129.12) by mta3 with SMTP; 10 Aug 2001 22:34:55 -0000 Received: from ucsub.colorado.edu (kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu [128.138.129.12]) by ucsub.colorado.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/student) with ESMTP id f7AMYsf09819 for ; Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:34:55 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:34:54 -0600 (MDT) To: Subject: RE: [lojban] RE: Re: Well I guess you do learn something new every day... In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010810181022.00cdf320@pop.cais.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE From: Jay Kominek On Fri, 10 Aug 2001, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > >So, the way consensus is set is by the sort of debates Jorge, pc, Xod, > >me, et al. have been having of late. > > "Consensus" that is not followed by usage matching that consensus is > meaningless. It'll just be forgotten only to have the issue reappear the > next time someone asks the question. Even the creation of "records" does > not stop the so-called consensus issues from cropping up again and again, > and I don't think the wiki will change this - at least the Lojban List > archives are searchable now. And one can find all kinds of amusing things by searching it. For instance, a thread which looks disturbingly like a number of the recent ones is: http://balance.wiw.org/~jkominek/lojban/9602/msg00003.html Even some of the same participants! I find it depressingly amusing (.u'i.uinai) that the same points are being discussed by the same people, five and a half years later. I suppose it would be too much to hope that people interested in debating the merits of using Lojban as a developmental toy could go back through the archives and live vicariously though their old emails? - Jay Kominek Plus =E7a change, plus c'est la m=EAme chose