From sfodstad@yahoo.com Sat Aug 11 15:49:18 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: sfodstad@yahoo.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 11 Aug 2001 22:49:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 62118 invoked from network); 11 Aug 2001 22:49:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 11 Aug 2001 22:49:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.sigecom.net) (63.64.9.61) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Aug 2001 22:49:16 -0000 Received: from yahoo.com (cable-y-52.sigecom.net [63.121.239.52]) by mail.sigecom.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f7BMeRJ11790; Sat, 11 Aug 2001 17:40:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3B74643C.9070108@yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:46:20 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win95; en-US; rv:0.9.3+) Gecko/20010810 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: anarcholojban@yahoo.com Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] New to lojban, any suggestions? References: <9l1op2+k2ts@eGroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Steven Fodstad anarcholojban@yahoo.com wrote: > Hello all, > > For the last two months have been joyfully reading over the > lojban materials that are available over the internet (including the > pretty tengwar script) and I've been preparing myself for actual, > systematic study of the language. But, at the same time, I've also > been fooling around with Esperanto, so I have a few questions to help > me to decide which constructed language to buckle down with for > awhile: > > Can anyone share there stories of learning Lojban, how far they are > at, and how they enjoy it? I've been lurking in this mailing list for a while, and this is my first post to this mailing list. I found Lojban when it was slashdotted a while back, and have been reading the refgram over and over again as necessary. I started to keep a journal in Lojban, but it's been slow going because a) I've never written a journal before, b)I have an extremely small vocabulary, and c) I am learning to use Emacs at the same time.(Thank you, Gnu people, for the Alt+1,Alt+Shift+1 shortcut) As an aside--in the previous paragraph, I explicitly numbered the items. Is there a similar facility in Lojban? I'm at the point now where I grok the place structure when not rearranged or when explicitly rearranged(i.e. {mi tavla do} and {mi tavla fu la lojban.}, but not {mi tavla fi do do'o}). I got interested when I saw "--the logical language" and "literature" together on the main page. I also remember reading about Loglan in The Moon is a Harsh Mistress(my favorite Heinlein book), so I was hooked when I read that it was an evolved form of that. I like Lojban because I believe the hypothesis(you know the one. Can't remember the names that go along with it at the moment) is true, and if it's true, what more positive effects could come of it than of Lojban? > Does any one have any good suggestions for how best to study it? > I've already gone through most of the basic grammar stuff, it's more > an issue of learning vocabulary. You could try my method--start a journal. There's IRC(I can't connect to EFNet because Identd doesn't work on my machine), Wiki, Mailing lists(this one and one for discussions in Lojban)