From nicholas@uci.edu Sun Aug 12 16:41:14 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: nicholas@uci.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 12 Aug 2001 23:41:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 6196 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2001 23:41:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 12 Aug 2001 23:41:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO e4e.oac.uci.edu) (128.200.222.10) by mta1 with SMTP; 12 Aug 2001 23:41:14 -0000 Received: from [128.195.186.80] (dialin53a-04.ppp.uci.edu [128.195.186.14]) by e4e.oac.uci.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10899 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:41:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Sender: nicholas@e4e.oac.uci.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:33:34 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: New to lojban, any suggestions? From: Nick Nicholas Steven Fodstad asked: >As an aside--in the previous paragraph, I explicitly numbered the items. >Is there a similar facility in Lojban? -mai for sentences, -mo'o for text divisions. Your example involves parts of sentences, and I'm going to assume it's legitimate to extend -mai to them. Thus: >I started to keep a journal in Lojban, but it's been slow going because >a) I've never written a journal before, b)I have an extremely small >vocabulary, and c) I am learning to use Emacs at the same time.(Thank >you, Gnu people, for the Alt+1,Alt+Shift+1 shortcut) .i mi co'a vrejygau lo sezykarni pebau la lojban. .i ku'i lenu go'i cu masno ki'u lenu pamai mi punai vrejygau lo sezykarni kei .e lenu remai le'i valsi poi slabu mi cu cmalu kei .e lenu cimai mi ca ji'a cilre lenu pilno la .emaks. (to ki'e prenu pe la gnus. zi'epoi finti le batkyci'a tordunli po'u .alt.bu joi pabu ce'o .alt.bu joi taubu joi pabu toi) Note: Shift is taubu, Caps Lock is ga'ebu. I hope I'm not insane enough to come up with equivalents of the other keys of the keyboard... Emacs. Lordy. While I had to use Emacs, I was using vim-mode as much as humanly possible, and as soon as I found a WYSIWYG XML editor, I dropped it like a stone. I admire your perseverence... >I like Lojban because I believe the hypothesis(you know the one. Can't >remember the names that go along with it at the moment) is true, and if >it's true, what more positive effects could come of it than of Lojban? Sapir-Whorf. Haven't seen it mentioned here much lately. I think most linguists hope it isn't true, for ideological reasons ("All languages are equal")... Nick Nicholas, TLG, UCI, USA. nicholas@uci.edu www.opoudjis.net "Most Byzantine historians felt they knew enough to use the optatives correctly; some of them were right." --- Harry Turtledove.