From rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org Sun Aug 12 23:07:45 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 13 Aug 2001 06:07:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 82578 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2001 06:07:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 13 Aug 2001 06:07:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO chain.digitalkingdom.org) (64.169.75.101) by mta3 with SMTP; 13 Aug 2001 06:07:44 -0000 Received: from rlpowell by chain.digitalkingdom.org with local (Exim 3.32 #1 (Debian)) id 15WAt3-00071m-00 for ; Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:07:41 -0700 Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:07:41 -0700 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] New to lojban, any suggestions? Message-ID: <20010812230741.E21501@digitalkingdom.org> Mail-Followup-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com References: <9l1op2+k2ts@eGroups.com> <4.3.2.7.2.20010813012844.00d69150@pop.cais.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010813012844.00d69150@pop.cais.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.20i From: Robin Lee Powell On Mon, Aug 13, 2001 at 01:49:06AM -0400, Bob LeChevalier (lojbab) wrote: > At 02:54 PM 8/12/01 +0200, Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > > > Can anyone share there stories of learning Lojban, how far they are > > > at, and how they enjoy it? > > > >I've written some of my story of learning Lojban at > >. Basically I've > >studied Lojban on my own, on the basis of the electronic wordlists and > >the draft reference grammar. > > > >It is true that one can get a grasp of the basic grammar in a matter of > >hours or days. But to be able to say what I wanted to say, I had to > >acquire some more vocabulary. This I did primarily with Logflash, the > >LLG's fine gismu drilling program. I can't remember exactly how much > >time I used to work through all of the 1342, but I think it took me > >about six months, while at the same time reading the messages from the > >mailing lists. > > I want to make sure to note that people who use LogFlash are helping the > research aspect of the project. Uhh, really? No offense intended, but perhaps then it should exist in a form that can actually be used by most people. > LogFlash is instrumented, and anyone like Arnt who makes it through > all the words is urged to send me the files specific to their name. > Info on the learner's education and language background (especially > with regard to the 6 source languages for Lojban gismu, is also > useful. I can't believe I'm saying this. If you explain in more detail why Logflash is important, and I agree with the value as presented in said explanation, I'll give serious consideration to re-writing it. Is the research value 'tainted' if the user has done other, seperate memorizing of the words? -Robin -- http://www.digitalkingdom.org/~rlpowell/ BTW, I'm male, honest. le datni cu djica le nu zifre .iku'i .oi le so'e datni cu to'e te pilno je xlali -- RLP http://www.lojban.org/