From andrew@ling.ed.ac.uk Tue Aug 14 06:18:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: andrew@ling.ed.ac.uk X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 14 Aug 2001 13:18:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 48914 invoked from network); 14 Aug 2001 13:18:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 14 Aug 2001 13:18:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pisa.ling.ed.ac.uk) (129.215.204.69) by mta3 with SMTP; 14 Aug 2001 13:18:26 -0000 Received: from babel.ling.ed.ac.uk (babel.ling.ed.ac.uk [129.215.204.4]) by pisa.ling.ed.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19421 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:18:22 +0100 (BST) Received: from localhost (andrew@localhost) by babel.ling.ed.ac.uk (8.9.3+Sun/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA08976 for ; Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:18:24 +0100 (BST) X-Authentication-Warning: babel.ling.ed.ac.uk: andrew owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2001 14:18:23 +0100 (BST) X-Sender: andrew@babel To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Transliterations survey In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE From: Andrew Smith As far as I know, when the Hungarians reformed their spelling system sometime last century, names were exempted, and so are still spelt using the old rules. So the name Ra'koczi stayed as it is, but czukor (sugar) became cukor. Likewise Eo"tvo"s and Eszterha'zy. Andrew Smith andrew@ling.ed.ac.uk On Tue, 14 Aug 2001, John Cowan wrote: > A.W.T. scripsit: >=20 > > The "i" is misleading since Hungarian "y" is not a vowel (except in som= e pr=3D > > oper names like Esterh=E1zy - which, following it's=20 > > pronunciation, should be given as "Eszterh=E1zi"). >=20 > Hey, thanks. I've been pronouncing it with final palatalized "z" all > this time, and wondering why "zy" is not mentioned in books on Hungarian.= ... >=20 > --=20 > John Cowan cowan@ccil.org > One art/there is/no less/no more/All things/to do/with sparks/galore > --Douglas Hofstadter >=20 > To unsubscribe, send mail to lojban-unsubscribe@onelist.com=20 >=20 > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/= =20 >=20 >=20