From a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com Tue Aug 14 18:33:34 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: a.rosta@dtn.ntl.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 15 Aug 2001 01:33:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 81365 invoked from network); 15 Aug 2001 01:33:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 15 Aug 2001 01:33:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO relay3-gui.server.ntli.net) (194.168.4.200) by mta1 with SMTP; 15 Aug 2001 01:33:30 -0000 Received: from m56-mp1-cvx2c.bre.ntl.com ([62.253.88.56] helo=andrew) by relay3-gui.server.ntli.net with smtp (Exim 3.03 #2) id 15WpJK-0007Px-00 for lojban@yahoogroups.com; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:17:30 +0100 To: Subject: reflexive selbri (was: RE: remarks on no'a (was: RE: [lojban] Re: Well I guess you do learn something new every day...) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 02:32:35 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <9la1qe+gvp9@eGroups.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Importance: Normal From: "And Rosta" Adam: > la and cusku di'e > > > I admit that I and I'm sure many others, probably including key > > members of the Lojbanistani inner cabal, formerly had overhastily > > supposed vo'a would do the job. > > > > I share your aversion to sevzi. > > Perhaps it could be something like this: > > wash oneself is "lumci le nei" -> "nei lumci" -> "nei zei lumci" and > then we could take a rafsi like "nej" for nei and get "nejlumci". This is a bit of a wouldn't-it-be-nice-if; things don't work this way. For the lujvo, I suggest {lumcyselylumci}. For nonlujvo there's ko'a noi/da poi/noi ke'a lumci ke'a and the recently mooted le/lo se ka ce'u lumci ce'u > Likewise, we can play tricks with other places: > > selnejlasna = lasna fi le se nei = fasten to itself. (l1 l2=l3 l4) telylasnyselylasna -- kludgey, but uses existing resources. --And.