From jay.kominek@colorado.edu Wed Aug 15 20:47:10 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 16 Aug 2001 03:47:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 47922 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2001 03:46:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Aug 2001 03:46:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ucsub.colorado.edu) (128.138.129.12) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 03:46:22 -0000 Received: from ucsub.colorado.edu (kominek@ucsub.colorado.edu [128.138.129.12]) by ucsub.colorado.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2/ITS-5.0/student) with ESMTP id f7G3kMW08352 for ; Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:46:22 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 21:46:22 -0600 (MDT) To: Subject: Re: [lojban] ma smuni zo senva In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE From: Jay Kominek On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Cyril Slobin wrote: > On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Cyril Slobin wrote: > > > > senva seems to mean that the person is visualizing or imaging things = which > > > aren't happening, and possibly couldn't. > > > > A person can vizualize something he fears and wishes not to happen (bot= h > > asleep and in a daydream). By your opinion, is this still {senva}? > > Eg is nightmare a {senva} too? IMO, day dreams, nightmares, good dreams are all cases of senva. Hoping that you get into graduate school isn't senva. Sitting around in class and thinking about how neat it would be to be to have a graduate degree, such that you're unaware of the professor lecturing, is senva. However, I would form some sort lujvo for all of them, and use the appropriate lujvo instead of senva directly, as it seems to be a gismu which is fairly vague and best left to lujvo/tanru construction. - Jay Kominek Plus =C3=A7a change, plus c'est la m=C3=AAme chose