From pycyn@aol.com Thu Aug 16 09:44:29 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: Pycyn@aol.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 16 Aug 2001 16:44:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 56083 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2001 16:43:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l7.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Aug 2001 16:43:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO imo-m07.mx.aol.com) (64.12.136.162) by mta2 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 16:43:38 -0000 Received: from Pycyn@aol.com by imo-m07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.3.) id r.c8.193bb138 (3990) for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:43:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:43:26 EDT Subject: Re: [lojban] Second session on Record: anaphora To: lojban@yahoogroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_c8.193bb138.28ad522e_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 6.0 for Windows US sub 10531 From: pycyn@aol.com --part1_c8.193bb138.28ad522e_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/13/2001 8:17:23 PM Central Daylight Time, a.rosta@ntlworld.com writes: > > {no'a [xiPA]} This repeats the bridi PA levels up from the place where it > > occurs. The default {no'a} = {no'axipa} the bridi in which the > occurrence is > > immediately nested. The topmost bridi in the nesting chain (the one to > whose > > sumti {vo'V} refer) is always reachable as {no'axiro}. > > ADD: > > One level down from {no'a xi ro} is {no'a xi da'a}, two levels down > is {no'a xi da'a re}, etc. > I'm not so sure about this addition. I think counting in one way is more than confusing enough (though it may be that counting down from the top is easier than up from the bottom). The Book nor usage seem to exclude this but I don't want to put it in as recommended or the result of this discussion. --part1_c8.193bb138.28ad522e_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/13/2001 8:17:23 PM Central Daylight Time,
a.rosta@ntlworld.com writes:


> {no'a [xiPA]}  This repeats the bridi PA levels up from the place where it
> occurs.  The default {no'a} = {no'axipa} the bridi in which the
occurrence is
> immediately nested.  The topmost bridi in the nesting chain (the one to
whose
> sumti {vo'V} refer) is always reachable as {no'axiro}.

ADD:

One level down from {no'a xi ro} is {no'a xi da'a}, two levels down
is {no'a xi da'a re}, etc.


I'm not so sure about this addition.  I think counting in one way is more
than confusing enough (though it may be that counting down from the top is
easier than up from the bottom).  The Book nor usage seem to exclude this but
I don't want to put it in as recommended or the result of this discussion.
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