From rob@twcny.rr.com Thu Aug 16 16:32:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: rob@telenet.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 16 Aug 2001 23:32:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 56128 invoked from network); 16 Aug 2001 23:32:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l10.egroups.com with QMQP; 16 Aug 2001 23:32:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO telenet.net) (204.97.152.225) by mta1 with SMTP; 16 Aug 2001 23:32:15 -0000 Received: from riff (ip-209-23-14-47.modem.logical.net [209.23.14.47]) by telenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04302 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:32:13 -0400 Received: from rob by riff with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15XWVh-0000wq-00 for ; Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:25:09 -0400 Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 19:25:08 -0400 To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: junta [was: Re: [lojban] selma'o considered harmful Message-ID: <20010816192508.A3442@twcny.rr.com> Reply-To: rob@twcny.rr.com References: <20010816152300.QPOC24413.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@localhost> <20010816131513.A464@twcny.rr.com> <01081615173601.05304@neofelis> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <01081615173601.05304@neofelis> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i X-Is-It-Not-Nifty: www.sluggy.com Sender: Rob Speer From: Rob Speer On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 03:17:36PM -0400, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Thursday 16 August 2001 13:15, Rob Speer wrote: > > You don't need a gismu for that. {gradrnut,nu} or {juntrnut,nu} would work, > > and similarly for {gradrvoltu} or {nejnrvolti}. > > The gismu for forming unit fu'ivla is {klani}. {gradu} would give the wrong > place structure. I've already seen {klanrniutoni}. Do fu'ivla have any inherent place structure? I can't find anything about that in the Book. I thought their place structures were defined by usage. -- Rob Speer