From jcowan@reutershealth.com Mon Aug 20 14:02:33 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 20 Aug 2001 21:02:33 -0000 Received: (qmail 33521 invoked from network); 20 Aug 2001 21:02:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Aug 2001 21:02:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta3 with SMTP; 20 Aug 2001 21:02:02 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[192.168.3.11]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA28340; Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B817A99.2090000@reutershealth.com> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2001 17:01:13 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jim Peters Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Brochure updates References: <20010820161935.A17261@uazu.net> <3B81524D.3050808@reutershealth.com> <20010820213320.A18161@uazu.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan Jim Peters wrote: > I don't like this, but there is no point in complaining. However > looking at `r' as a Spanish `r' (as I am), I'm going pronounce > {KAtr'in} as {katrin} every time, That is a perfectly valid pronunciation. > because from that perspective, > you're asking me to turn an easily pronouncable consonant into a weird > murky vowel-sound because by some rule or other it is deemed syllabic. Not necessarily. The point is that you can use either the rhotic vowel or the trill (Spanish "rr") as you find convenient. So "bangrblgaria" is "ban,gr,bl,ga,ria" either way. > Is there some clear rule to tell me that that `r' isn't a roll-able > `r' ? Is this rule easy to remember ? It is *always* roll-able. > Sorry to bring this up - I'll let it drop now. No, no. It is important to get these points cleared up. -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel