From jcowan@reutershealth.com Tue Aug 21 16:18:25 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 21 Aug 2001 23:18:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 60287 invoked from network); 21 Aug 2001 23:17:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Aug 2001 23:17:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Aug 2001 23:17:04 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[192.168.3.11]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA12148; Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:18:55 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B82EBC0.4020705@reutershealth.com> Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 19:16:16 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pycyn@aol.com Cc: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] your rs References: <24.181ff178.28b43c13@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan pycyn@aol.com wrote: > The London situation reported by And seems to be that of fading r caught in > the peculiar habit of ls to become ws? Can someone fill me in on this > habit > (Walensa in Lodz, talk, a le, etc.) Lateral consonants come in two flavors, front (as in German) and back (as in AmE). Sometimes the terms "light" and "dark" are used. The back/dark "l" has some degree of lip-rounding as a redundant feature. It's fairly easy for the tongue-movement to get lost and just the lip-rounding remain, hence l > w. -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel