From graywyvern@hotmail.com Wed Aug 22 08:58:54 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: graywyvern@hotmail.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 22 Aug 2001 15:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 51098 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2001 15:52:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2001 15:52:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO hotmail.com) (216.33.236.131) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2001 15:52:13 -0000 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:52:13 -0700 Received: from 63.27.18.123 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:52:13 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.27.18.123] To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Bcc: Subject: Re: [lojban] platonism, organicism and hardlinerism Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 15:52:13 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Aug 2001 15:52:13.0300 (UTC) FILETIME=[68F73B40:01C12B22] From: "michael helsem" >From: And Rosta li'o >Organicists see a language as a community of communicating >users and as a body of usage. Platonists see a language as an >abstract set of rules. i most incline to the (late) Wittgensteinian view that language is like a game, with consensual rules open to consensual modification. this seems to combine Platonist & Organicist, but it may be that the former would reject it on account of the way the rules tend to become irreversibly altered over time. m. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp