From jcowan@reutershealth.com Wed Aug 22 13:10:13 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: jcowan@reutershealth.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 22 Aug 2001 20:10:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 84507 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2001 20:05:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m8.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Aug 2001 20:05:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.reutershealth.com) (204.243.9.36) by mta3 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2001 20:05:13 -0000 Received: from reutershealth.com (IDENT:cowan@[192.168.3.11]) by mail.reutershealth.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21319; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B841044.5050901@reutershealth.com> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 16:04:20 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:0.9.3) Gecko/20010801 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: And Rosta Cc: lojban Subject: Re: [lojban] Toward a {ce'u} record References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: John Cowan And Rosta wrote: > 4. John heard himself burp and so did Bob. > [ambiguous: who did Bill hear burp?] > > 5. Sinatra enjoys singing and so does Bill. > [ambiguous: whose singing does Bill enjoy?] Well, these at least I can handle with go'i vs. go'i ra'o: la djan ri -burp -hear .i la bab. go'i (ra'o) la sinatras -enjoy le nu ri -sings .i la bil. go'i (ra'o) Without ra'o: Bob hears John, Bill enjoys Sinatra. With ra'o : Bob hears Bob, Bill enjoys Bill. -- Not to perambulate || John Cowan the corridors || http://www.reutershealth.com during the hours of repose || http://www.ccil.org/~cowan in the boots of ascension. \\ Sign in Austrian ski-resort hotel