From ragnarok@pobox.com Wed Aug 22 16:55:28 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: raganok@intrex.net X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 22 Aug 2001 23:55:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 5060 invoked from network); 22 Aug 2001 23:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by l8.egroups.com with QMQP; 22 Aug 2001 23:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO intrex.net) (209.42.192.246) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Aug 2001 23:55:22 -0000 Received: from Craig [209.42.200.34] by intrex.net (SMTPD32-5.05) id A69D84400AE; Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:56:13 -0400 Reply-To: To: Subject: RE: sts- [was: RE: [lojban] Brochure updates Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:55:17 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 In-Reply-To: <200108222343.QAA09465@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> X-eGroups-From: "Craig" From: "Craig" >Jorge Llambias wrote: >> la maikl cusku di'e >> >> >i gave up esperanto because i couldn't say STS- >> >> STS is a legal cluster in Lojban: e.g. xastsani >> (stsi'i is a valid fu'ivla). >> >> It also occurs in English: e.g. "bestseller". >> >> Hopefully you won't give up these two too! >Surely also the plural of any word ending in "st"? >Beasts, feasts, fests, breasts, guests, bequests, quests, forests... But English and lojban do not expect STSTS, and can be typed on a normal roman-alphabet keyboard. Lojban has harder consonant clusters than Esperanto, but one of the things that sold me on lojban is that if you can't say them, we have buffer vowels. They don't. And the weird letters and absurdities were both major turn-offs about esperanto. I wasn't actually looking to learn an artificial language, but lojban seemed to offer more than even any natural languages - and esperanto seemed like another natural language that happened not to be natural. Question for Esperantists: Is a female eunuch a neutrino? --la kreig.daniyl. 'segu le bavli temci gi mi'o renvi lo purci .i ga le fonxa janbe gi du mi' -la djimis.BYFet xy.sy. gubmau ckiku nacycme: 0x5C3A1E74