From brion@pobox.com Thu Aug 23 11:40:30 2001 Return-Path: X-Sender: brion@pobox.com X-Apparently-To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Received: (EGP: mail-7_3_1); 23 Aug 2001 18:40:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 43666 invoked from network); 23 Aug 2001 18:39:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by l9.egroups.com with QMQP; 23 Aug 2001 18:39:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net) (207.217.120.74) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Aug 2001 18:39:29 -0000 Received: from there (209-162-46-113.thegrid.net [209.162.46.113]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA06775 for ; Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:39:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200108231839.LAA06775@falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: lojban@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: sts- [was: RE: [lojban] Brochure updates Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 11:42:19 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: "Brion L. VIBBER" Craig wrote: > I am not interested in learning new natural languages that don't have more > speakers than Esperanto, certainly. A fair decision. If neither the language itself nor the culture interests you, a small, dispersed speaker community lends little utility. > As for reasons lojban offers more than natural languages, I predict that > due to its computer parseability and unambiguous structure Lojban is > likely to be the first langauge used by AI programs; [..] Yes, lojban is certainly fascinating and full of possibilities -- why do you think I'm here, too? > I use word. I want to be able to type, because my handwriting is awful. You've conveniently ignored the fact that you can download and install a keyboard driver in a few minutes and type away. > >* You are only interested in languages with complete morphological > >unambiguity (such as lojban). > > Not necessarily complete. Just enough that the speakers don't get into > fights about how to say computer (or anything else) - yes, I've seen that > happen in Esperanto. That's a silly thing to say on this mailing list. No, we never get into fights about language usage *here*... :) > However, the typing difficulties may contribute. In the human mind, all manner of strange things are possible... > And when I first looked at > esperanto, I actually was a bit put off by the propaganda - Propaganda and hype are the enemy of all good things. I'm certainly against misinformation and propaganda -- otherwise I wouldn't be bothering to argue with you here when my own lojban still isn't up to snuff. -- brion vibber (brion@pobox.com / vibber@usc.edu)