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*((Nalgol)), which was a project of totally redoing Loglan.
*((Gua\spi)), which is in the same string as Nalgol. Gua\spi is a descendent of Lojban and Loglan which uses Chinese-like tones to mark grammatical structure, developed by Jim Carter. By using tones instead of structure words, and cutting predicates from two to one syllable, Carter has fixed a minor flaw in Gua\spi's predecessors – they take a lot of syllables to say things, albeit at the expense of adding tone, which is a far from universal language trait.
+ *((Ceqli)) by Rex F. May is an auxiliary language project with origins in James Cooke Brown's Loglan, but has influences from English and Mandarin.
*((Voksigid)) created by an Internet working group led by Bruce R. Gilson, attempts to construct a predicate language of a different type from those which had gone before. Its syntax was somewhat influenced by Japanese, and its vocabulary was based mostly on European language roots. Loglan and Lojban both use word order to mark the various places in the predication, but because remembering which position means which role in the predication might be beyond easy memorization for most people, Voksigid was designed in order to overcome this issue. It uses an extensive set of very semantically specific prepositions to mark the roles of verb arguments, instead of positional order as in Loglan and Lojban [http://viewsoflanguage.host56.com/voksigid/|link].
*((Lojsk)) was conceived by Ari Reyes, heavily influenced by Loglan, Lojban, Universal Networking Language (UNL), Esperanto, Visual Basic, Dutton's Speedwords, Ceqli and Gua\spi. It is designed to be more single-syllable oriented. If possible, that would nonetheless lead Lojsk to be more sensitive to noisy environments than Lojban is, therefore its practicality in oral communication may be questioned.




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''jboske'' = "lojbanology" (& also, the name of a mailing list ([http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jboske]) exclusively for technical discussions about ((Lojban Description))).
!Lojbanology

!! About jboske
* ((jboske whitepapers))
* ((Some principles pertaining to the quasiprescriptive function of jboske))
* ((Academy de Lojban))
* ((Tinkering)) with ((Lojban Description)) -- ''nu ((stika la lojban.))''
* ((Semantic import of baseline-generated syntactic structures))

!! Documenting standard but underdocumented features
* ((Rearranging arguments without using FA))
* ((tags as connectives))
* ((List of expository materials needed to augment Woldy)) (List of underdocumented but established features for which teaching materials are needed)
* ((lo'e: Squinting))
* ((Magic Words))
* ((UserPageearendur|Phonology))
* ((Grammatical similarity of Q codes and UI/COI)) 
* ((On the meaning of 'ro broda cu brode'|Quantifiers))

!! Stuff that is not baseline-violating at all
* ((Experimental gismu))
** ((Rant: Against Experimental Gismu))
** Some hate certain Lojban constructions and suggest using Loglan primitives instead as a replacement. See ((Borrowing from Loglan))
* ((Stuff to be removed from the language))
* ((Bloated Gismu Syndrome))
** See also ((BPFK Section: gismu Issues)), section "Set Places"
* ((the Upsidedown Gismu Syndrome))
* ((resequencing sumti))
* Experimental cmavo
** ((Experimental cmavo|Discussion of experimental cmavo in general))
** Catalogue of ((currently proposed experimental cmavo))
** ((BPFK Section: New cmavo Proposals))
** ((experimental gadri|Experimental gadri))
** ((Experimental anaphorics))
** ((Experimental FA))
** ((Obsolete experimental cmavo))
** ((Currently used experimental cmavo))
** ((Criteria for evaluating experimental cmavo))

!! Stuff that is not necessarily official and not necessarily baseline-violating
((Rationale for creating Opinionated Gripes page))
* ((BPFK Section: gismu Issues)), section "Unapproved"
** ((BPFK Section: gismu Issues)), section "jbovlaste gismu Keywords"
** ((Approved gismu Alterations))
** ((BPFK gismu Proposal: kanpe))
** ((BPFK gismu Proposal: gletu))
** ((BPFK gismu Proposal: mabla and zabna))
* ((Proposed interpretive conventions))
* ((An essay on gadri))
* ((Robin's gadri Proposal))
* ((Gadri History))
* ((Intensions))
* ((species))
* ((default quantifiers))
* ((Alternate Orthographies))
* ((Punctuation))
* ((lerfu schemes))
* ((Leading Hyphen Convention))
* ((Relative Clauses and Phrases)) 
* ((plurals))
* ((Powell's Principle of Non-Gluteality))

!! Baseline-violating proposals
Pertaining to Lojban-as-someone-might-wish-it-to-have-been
* Stuff that would require a baseline change. Stuff here does not in itself necessarily aim to change the baseline. It notes what sort of changes might be desirable if the baseline were to change. The baseline may be reviewed at some point in the future, if certain highly stringent conditions are met, and an accumulation of jboske on this topic could inform that process.
** ((Practicable syntax changes))
*** ((Allow forethought sumti tail connection))
*** ((Allow BAI phrase to modify tense markers))
*** ((Allow tu'e...tu'u phrases as subsentences))
*** ((Bridi to sumti converter))
*** ((Internal grammar of tags))
*** ((Move NAI to CAI))
*** ((Reduction of the number of selma'o))
** ((Exploiting the preparser))
*** ((rant about "exploiting the preparser"))
** ((SE ka))
* ((BPFK Section: gismu Issues)), section "Other Issues"
** ((gism))
** ((Redo the words))
** ((BPFK gismu Section: Problems With ka))
** ((BPFK gismu Section: Parenthetical Remarks in Brivla Definitions))
** ((BPFK gismu Section: Complete vs. Incomplete Specifications))
** Wouldn't it have been nice ((gismu as tetrahedrons|if all ''gismu'' had 4 and only 4 arguments so we could imagine them as solid tetrahedrons in space))
* ((Cmavo that are a ghastly waste of precious monosyllabic cmavo space))
* ((Rant: e'o and e'u are not commands))
* ((catalogue of baseline violations)) (either in usage or in proposals not flagged as non-baseline conformant)
* Wouldn't it have been nice...
** ((if alphabetical order of numbers matched numerical order...))
** if ((Lojban Description)) had had some ((funny sounds and phooey))
** see ((CouldaBeenRafsi))
** ((if the rule about no la or lai or doi in cmene didn't exist))
** ((if Lojban had borrowed certain neat features from Loglan and -gua!spi))

!! Other languages
Now we are approaching languages distinct from Lojban.
*((New LoCCan)) is a possible next revision of Loglan/Lojban.
Also we have other projects like
*((Loglan)) is now a generic term that refers both to James Cooke Brown's Loglan, and all languages descended from it. Since the organization that Dr. Brown established, The Loglan Institute (TLI), still calls its language Loglan, it is necessary to state that this section refers specifically to the TLI language, instead of the entire family of languages.
*((Nalgol)), which was a project of totally redoing Loglan.
*((Gua\spi)), which is in the same string as Nalgol. Gua\spi is a descendent of Lojban and Loglan which uses Chinese-like tones to mark grammatical structure, developed by Jim Carter. By using tones instead of structure words, and cutting predicates from two to one syllable, Carter has fixed a minor flaw in Gua\spi's predecessors – they take a lot of syllables to say things, albeit at the expense of adding tone, which is a far from universal language trait.
*((Ceqli)) by Rex F. May is an auxiliary language project with origins in James Cooke Brown's Loglan, but has influences from English and Mandarin.
*((Voksigid)) created by an Internet working group led by Bruce R. Gilson, attempts to construct a predicate language of a different type from those which had gone before. Its syntax was somewhat influenced by Japanese, and its vocabulary was based mostly on European language roots. Loglan and Lojban both use word order to mark the various places in the predication, but because remembering which position means which role in the predication might be beyond easy memorization for most people, Voksigid was designed in order to overcome this issue. It uses an extensive set of very semantically specific prepositions to mark the roles of verb arguments, instead of positional order as in Loglan and Lojban [http://viewsoflanguage.host56.com/voksigid/|link].
*((Lojsk)) was conceived by Ari Reyes, heavily influenced by Loglan, Lojban, Universal Networking Language (UNL), Esperanto, Visual Basic, Dutton's Speedwords, Ceqli and Gua\spi. It is designed to be more single-syllable oriented. If possible, that would nonetheless lead Lojsk to be more sensitive to noisy environments than Lojban is, therefore its practicality in oral communication may be questioned.


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