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Women-specific 'artlang', invented by Suzette Haden Elgin. Lojban's ((evidentials)) are inherited from it (although of course, L�an in turn got them from Amerindian human languages.)



What does it mean for a language to have a gender? - la ((kreig.daniyl.))



Check out [http://www.interlog.com/~kms/Laadan/,] and you tell me! :-)



Another "test of the ((Sapir-Whorf Hypothesis))" language.



''It has words for womanly things. That doesn't make it womanly, just gender-neutral. English may be "male" in some way, but laadan strikes me as neither.''



L�an is clearly feminine; see the pretty purple they used for the web page? It looks like a breast cancer site.



''But is the vocabulary purple also?'' (The vocabulary is indeed worth examining; it has specific terms for things like "discord in the home", "anger, for good and not futile reasons", "pain or loss which comes as a relief by virtue of ending the anticipation of its coming", "contentment despite negative circumstances", "the female sexual act", and "the act of relinquishing a cherished/ comforting/ familiar perception".)



I despair of this ThreadMode discourse ever congealing into DocumentMode :-) , but the foundational assumption of L�an is that women's perception of the word is fundamentally incommensurable with men's. So if purple meta-means what I think it meta-means, the answer is yes.



''Lojban got its evidentials from L�an, but they are organized quite differently:''



 L�an Evidence Act Morpheme                    Approximate Lojban equivalent

 wa                                              za'a/se'o/ju'a

 wi                                              li'a

 we                                              se'o

 w�                                            .iati'e

 wa�                                           .ianaiti'e

 wa�                                           .ianaiti'e.iunaidai? (''There must be a better word for ((malicious intent)).'')

 wo                                              da'i/ru'a

 w�                                           ju'ocu'i/pe'icu'i



''This brings up an interesting question: What is the correct evidential in Lojban (assuming normal experiences) for a sentence like "mi xagji"? za'a? se'o?''




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