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Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form
selpa'i, On 20/10/2014 13:23:
la .xorxes. cu cusku di'e
The PEG morphology is not yet official. I would have been happy to
disallow "consonant glide" as a valid onset altogether, but other people
were opposed to that at the time. Some would have even allowed "CC
glide" as a syllable onset, so allowing a single consonant was something
of a compromise. I would be happy to go with the more strict "onset <-
h / glide / initial" if that's the new consensus, although in that case
there are probably several words in jbovlaste that would have to be revised.
My personal position is that I definitely would want to disallow any CiV where C is a sibilant (e.g. ?{sia}) or a dental (e.g. ?{tia}) [1], because they tend to degenerate into simpler forms over time (e.g. {ca} and {tca} respectively) and are hard to distiniguish for many people. I would ban them in any word, not just in cmavo.
Regarding forms like {kia} (which must be pronounced [kja]), they bother me slightly less, but I wouldn't miss them if they got removed.
Why must Lojban have onsets and syllabification? /Cia/ is problematic only if /Ci-/ must constitute an onset.
So one could either ban just the ones that are likely to cause
problems, or ban all for simplicity's sake.
I'd ban none.
I see no problems with {ie'o} as a cmavo form.
How about {a'ua}?
[1] The are some additional phonotactic constraints I would install, but the details seem irrelevant here.
I think Lojban already has way more phonotactic constraints than is necessary...
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