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Re: [bpfk] official cmavo form



To make this more concrete, I went and did the search. Using an XML dump from yesterday, there are 342 valsi in jbovlaste (2 zei-lujvo, 2 experimental cmavo, 28 cmevla, 310 fu'ivla) that contain C[iu]V. If I restrict C to sibilants [jczs], there are only 52 (1 experimental cmavo, 4 cmevla, 47 fu'ivla).

mu'o mi'e la durka

On Monday, October 20, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Jorge Llambías wrote:



On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 4:05 AM, guskant <gusni.kantu@gmail.com> wrote:

Whether cmavo with "consonant glide" is allowed or not is very important for defining Lojban phonology. I, who have been believed that "consonant glide" is basically a kind of non-lojban sound, I have not been much careful in listening and speaking "je". If "jie" is allowed as cmavo, I should change my attitude, and be careful whether the pronunciation is "je" or "jie". Please, BPFK-members, make clear the decision on this matter.

The question shouldn't be about cmavo. If CiV/CuV are disallowed it should be for all words, since distinguishing prije from prijie is as hard or as easy as distinguishing je from jie. I currently find only three experimental cmavo in jbovlaste containing CiV/CuV, but there are lots of fu'ivla, so the proposal to disallow them should contemplate what is to be done with all those fu'ivla (change them to something else? leave them in as archaic words?) It would also be useful to know of how many words we are talking about.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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