Re: [bpfk] mabla and zabna by fiat.

[la gleki <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>]

On Tuesday, July 9, 2013 8:23:24 PM UTC+4, xorxes wrote:

On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:25 PM, John Cowan <co...@mercury.ccil.org> wrote:

I can live with it, provided someone puts in a lujvo (probably involving
mabla and cusku, but not just malsku) that means "x1 curses at x2 using
form of _expression_ x3", because right now that is termabla, and we
need such a word.

I'm not sure that's what "termabla" has to mean with the old definition though. It's more like "x1 uses word/_expression_ x2 with derogatory connotation/sense x3". The x2 of old mabla seems to be a word or _expression_, not a person. At least in the first definition "x1 is a derogative connotation/sense of x2 used by x3". In the second definition "x3 derogates/'curses at' x2 in form x1", x2 does become a person (or a thing I suppose), but it's hard to reconcile it with the first.

As for "x1 curses at x2", we have "dapma".

What is the brivla equivalent of {di'ai} ? toldapma?

For general use of foul language, we could use "malbaupli" (this need not be directed at anyone in particular) or "malbausku". 

 

 Ditto for zabna, of course.  The reason not to use
malsku is that it would mean "shittily express" rather than "talk shit to".

It depends on how the lujvo is defined. "Shittily say" would be "ko'a mabla lo ka ce'u cusku", while "say shit" would be "ko'a cusku lo mabla". I'm not sure "talk shit to" is the same as "curse at" though. There's also possibly "malski" for "skicu fo lo ka mabla" Also "te malcme" for name calling.

mu'o mi'e xorxes

 

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